(1) The symphony takes the idea through a more classically-oriented structure: an opening allegro, a slow movement, a scherzo , and a dead-march finale.

(2) On the other hand, I tend to judge on the basis of the opening movement and the slow one, rather than of the scherzo and the choral finale.

(3) The trio's third movement is a scherzo , full of fleeting and magical tunes very reminiscent of the Midsummer's Night Dream overture, a piece that Mendelssohn wrote when he was just 17.

(4) Allusion to the trio, as in some of Beethoven's symphonic scherzos , briefly turns up in the coda.

(5) Often, at pedagogy conferences, we witness prodigiously talented fourteen-year-olds taking a master lesson in huge pieces like Prokofiev sonatas or Chopin scherzos .